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	<title>Comments on: The CEP Market 2009: a Brief History Lesson</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Vincent</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/07/31/the-cep-market-2009-a-brief-history-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry - done.

If anyone else wants a copy of this for inclusion in PPTs - well of course you are free to copy the PNG from the blog. Vendors mentioned in the survey can drop me a line if they want the PPT version for their own (internal) purposes.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry - done.</p>
<p>If anyone else wants a copy of this for inclusion in PPTs - well of course you are free to copy the PNG from the blog. Vendors mentioned in the survey can drop me a line if they want the PPT version for their own (internal) purposes.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Baulier</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/07/31/the-cep-market-2009-a-brief-history-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Baulier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paul,

I would really appreciate it if you could send me the source version to jbaulier@verizon.net.  I will certainly credit you and Tibco as the source of this:-)  I have additional information for you, but I'll give you that 1-1 when I get your email.

Best,
jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul,</p>
<p>I would really appreciate it if you could send me the source version to <a href="mailto:jbaulier@verizon.net">jbaulier@verizon.net</a>.  I will certainly credit you and Tibco as the source of this:-)  I have additional information for you, but I&#8217;ll give you that 1-1 when I get your email.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Vincent</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/07/31/the-cep-market-2009-a-brief-history-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jerry - Thanks for the note and I hope all is going well with your team, too - looking forward to good news from your new organisation on CEP!

For the update on the Market Players see the expanded version at http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2010/05/31/the-cep-market-in-mid-2010-revisited/ ... there is possibly a justification for a cut-down version with just the "main general purpose CEP players", but then this shows how much the field is growing. 

Let me know if you want the source version to adapt for your presentation - would be happy to email it to you.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jerry - Thanks for the note and I hope all is going well with your team, too - looking forward to good news from your new organisation on CEP!</p>
<p>For the update on the Market Players see the expanded version at <a href="http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2010/05/31/the-cep-market-in-mid-2010-revisited/" rel="nofollow">http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2010/05/31/the-cep-market-in-mid-2010-revisited/</a> &#8230; there is possibly a justification for a cut-down version with just the &#8220;main general purpose CEP players&#8221;, but then this shows how much the field is growing. </p>
<p>Let me know if you want the source version to adapt for your presentation - would be happy to email it to you.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Baulier</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/07/31/the-cep-market-2009-a-brief-history-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Baulier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 02:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

Did you ever do an updated version of this CEP Market Players History Graph?  I was going to pull something like this together for a presentation I'm pulling together and would really appreciate any updates you may have on this.  I was going to poll Opher as well given he probably pulled this together for his book.

I hope all is well, I've noticed you've been busy:-)
jerry Baulier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>Did you ever do an updated version of this CEP Market Players History Graph?  I was going to pull something like this together for a presentation I&#8217;m pulling together and would really appreciate any updates you may have on this.  I was going to poll Opher as well given he probably pulled this together for his book.</p>
<p>I hope all is well, I&#8217;ve noticed you&#8217;ve been busy:-)<br />
jerry Baulier</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Vincent</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/07/31/the-cep-market-2009-a-brief-history-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jerry - I already have some updates to do to this chart, so thanks for the update and Sunrise/QTM suggestion. 

I tried to steer a "neutral" path on "start dates" - estimating "first customer use" rather than project availability and POC efforts. Clearly that data is not usually available, hence the variability on timing. Of course, may people have done CEP-based products (and re-usable "frameworks") prior the availability of more general-purpose CEP products... probably we don't want to document all those (in this chart anyway!). Then again, it might be interesting to have a version of this chart with "predecessor applications, specialist tools and projects"...

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jerry - I already have some updates to do to this chart, so thanks for the update and Sunrise/QTM suggestion. </p>
<p>I tried to steer a &#8220;neutral&#8221; path on &#8220;start dates&#8221; - estimating &#8220;first customer use&#8221; rather than project availability and POC efforts. Clearly that data is not usually available, hence the variability on timing. Of course, may people have done CEP-based products (and re-usable &#8220;frameworks&#8221;) prior the availability of more general-purpose CEP products&#8230; probably we don&#8217;t want to document all those (in this chart anyway!). Then again, it might be interesting to have a version of this chart with &#8220;predecessor applications, specialist tools and projects&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Baulier</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/07/31/the-cep-market-2009-a-brief-history-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-914</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Baulier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

I agree with Jeff, very nice chart, thanks.  

The Aleri Streaming Platform was actually released in Nov 2005, so it's more in line with Coral8 timewise, in fact Coral8 announced months after Aleri (they were purposely under the radar for a period of time).  Aleri also had a prior event processing framework on which we built Liquidity Management (a position management event streaming app), but given it was column-based it was not really low latency, that work goes back to 1999.  

You might also want to Google the Sunrise Project, which one of my teams productized under the name QTM while at Bell Labs Research and later Lucent's Software Business Unit.  We called it real-time event analytics/processing back then and we were unable to spin it out as a venture given the market was not yet ready for this sort of framework, so instead we built and sold apps using it under the Kenan brand.  This was another relational-based event processing framework utilizing SQL for modeling.

Hope this helps.
Best,
Jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>I agree with Jeff, very nice chart, thanks.  </p>
<p>The Aleri Streaming Platform was actually released in Nov 2005, so it&#8217;s more in line with Coral8 timewise, in fact Coral8 announced months after Aleri (they were purposely under the radar for a period of time).  Aleri also had a prior event processing framework on which we built Liquidity Management (a position management event streaming app), but given it was column-based it was not really low latency, that work goes back to 1999.  </p>
<p>You might also want to Google the Sunrise Project, which one of my teams productized under the name QTM while at Bell Labs Research and later Lucent&#8217;s Software Business Unit.  We called it real-time event analytics/processing back then and we were unable to spin it out as a venture given the market was not yet ready for this sort of framework, so instead we built and sold apps using it under the Kenan brand.  This was another relational-based event processing framework utilizing SQL for modeling.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.<br />
Best,<br />
Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff - hopefully it is somewhat accurate...
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff - hopefully it is somewhat accurate&#8230;<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Wootton</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/07/31/the-cep-market-2009-a-brief-history-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Wootton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - This is a really useful diagram. Thanks for sharing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul - This is a really useful diagram. Thanks for sharing it.</p>
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