Comments on: Communications of the ACM on Data in Flight (or maybe DBAs in Fright) http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2010/02/12/communications-of-the-acm-on-data-in-flight-or-maybe-dbas-in-fright/ Complex Event Processing (CEP) Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:13:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Paul Vincent http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2010/02/12/communications-of-the-acm-on-data-in-flight-or-maybe-dbas-in-fright/comment-page-1/#comment-1073 Paul Vincent Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:37:15 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/?p=1088#comment-1073 Opher has posted details of the <a href="http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2010/5/87250-roots-of-publication-delay/fulltext#body-3" rel="nofollow">response</a> to this ACM article on his <a href="http://epthinking.blogspot.com/2010/04/letter-to-editor-in-communications-of.html " rel="nofollow">blog</a>. As usual, Opher's response is far more diplomatic than mine :) and, this being the ACM, the original author was granted leave to reply to Opher's points. Unfortunately, albeit not surprisingly, I don't think the article author makes a very good defence (sorry Julian!), trying to excuse the article as being from a BI perspective. Amongst the claims in the response: 1 - EPTS fails to address the needs of the data warehouse community = why should it? What has data warehousing got to do with event processing, except as a repository of past events??? 2 - SQL is the lingua franca of the BI community, therefore streaming queries allow BI (folk) to address new problems = ah, the old "re-use your SQL skills" argument... although I would argue that real analysts - like TIBCO Spotfire users - are probably using higher level tools than SQL!!! Oh well! C'est la vie. Opher has posted details of the response to this ACM article on his blog.

As usual, Opher’s response is far more diplomatic than mine :) and, this being the ACM, the original author was granted leave to reply to Opher’s points. Unfortunately, albeit not surprisingly, I don’t think the article author makes a very good defence (sorry Julian!), trying to excuse the article as being from a BI perspective.

Amongst the claims in the response:
1 - EPTS fails to address the needs of the data warehouse community
= why should it? What has data warehousing got to do with event processing, except as a repository of past events???
2 - SQL is the lingua franca of the BI community, therefore streaming queries allow BI (folk) to address new problems
= ah, the old “re-use your SQL skills” argument… although I would argue that real analysts - like TIBCO Spotfire users - are probably using higher level tools than SQL!!!

Oh well! C’est la vie.

]]> By: Paul Vincent http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2010/02/12/communications-of-the-acm-on-data-in-flight-or-maybe-dbas-in-fright/comment-page-1/#comment-1003 Paul Vincent Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:27:27 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/?p=1088#comment-1003 Thanks Opher - look forward to you setting the ACM straight :) Cheers Thanks Opher - look forward to you setting the ACM straight :) Cheers

]]> By: Opher Etzion http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2010/02/12/communications-of-the-acm-on-data-in-flight-or-maybe-dbas-in-fright/comment-page-1/#comment-1002 Opher Etzion Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:51:25 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/?p=1088#comment-1002 Thanks Paul for noticing it, I have approached the CACM editor-in-chief to attract his attention to inaccuracies in this article, and asking him about the procedure to write a short commentary responding to it, waiting for response. Opher Thanks Paul for noticing it, I have approached the CACM editor-in-chief to attract his attention to inaccuracies in this article, and asking him about the procedure to write a short commentary responding to it, waiting for response.

Opher

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