Comments on: CEP, then “BEP”, and now “AEP” http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/11/15/cep-then-bep-and-now-aep/ Complex Event Processing (CEP) Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:49:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Paul Vincent http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/11/15/cep-then-bep-and-now-aep/comment-page-1/#comment-938 Paul Vincent Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:09 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/?p=952#comment-938 Hi Brenda - Indeed, enjoyed... hopefully I wasn't being too rude with the observation "...the term could also be due to mis-/over-reading some vendors’ attempts at differentiation" :) But wait, have we not seem some other attempts at jargon for this space? Ah yes - "RTAP" - see http://mervadrian.wordpress.com/2009/05/18/cep-the-tech-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/ !!! Cheers Hi Brenda - Indeed, enjoyed… hopefully I wasn’t being too rude with the observation “…the term could also be due to mis-/over-reading some vendors’ attempts at differentiation” :)

But wait, have we not seem some other attempts at jargon for this space? Ah yes - “RTAP” - see http://mervadrian.wordpress.com/2009/05/18/cep-the-tech-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/ !!!

Cheers

]]> By: Paul Vincent http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/11/15/cep-then-bep-and-now-aep/comment-page-1/#comment-937 Paul Vincent Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:56:24 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/?p=952#comment-937 James - the term CEP differentiates continuous event processing over say BPM/workflow event processing. Yes they are all processing events, but are suited to different problems. We are focussing on CEP here... An analogy might be: why do we differentiate between "analytics -driven decisioning" and "inference based decisioning" - they are both "decision support technologies" - we do 'cos they have different roles to play... On the other hand, if you are pointing out that the progression CEP - BEP - AEP must end in EP, perhaps you are right! :) Cheers James - the term CEP differentiates continuous event processing over say BPM/workflow event processing. Yes they are all processing events, but are suited to different problems. We are focussing on CEP here…

An analogy might be: why do we differentiate between “analytics -driven decisioning” and “inference based decisioning” - they are both “decision support technologies” - we do ‘cos they have different roles to play…

On the other hand, if you are pointing out that the progression CEP - BEP - AEP must end in EP, perhaps you are right! :)

Cheers

]]> By: brenda michelson http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/11/15/cep-then-bep-and-now-aep/comment-page-1/#comment-936 brenda michelson Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:44:33 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/?p=952#comment-936 Hi Paul, You'll enjoy this, Starview, the 'coiner' of AEP, has posted on what it is, and why (of course) it's better than plain ol' CEP engines: http://starviewtech.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/what-is-analytical-event-processing-aep/ Best, Brenda Hi Paul,

You’ll enjoy this, Starview, the ‘coiner’ of AEP, has posted on what it is, and why (of course) it’s better than plain ol’ CEP engines: http://starviewtech.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/what-is-analytical-event-processing-aep/

Best,
Brenda

]]> By: James Taylor http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/11/15/cep-then-bep-and-now-aep/comment-page-1/#comment-935 James Taylor Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:57:44 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/?p=952#comment-935 Paul Why do we need to classify it? Surely "event processing" or "event driven architecture" is both necessary and sufficient? It is a move away from process-centricity and towards event-centricity that is critical to my mind. The decision making involved in deciding how to process an event should be Business-oriented, might be Complex and will increasingly be Analytical. BEP, CEP, AEP - seems like a distinction without a difference to me. Paul
Why do we need to classify it? Surely “event processing” or “event driven architecture” is both necessary and sufficient? It is a move away from process-centricity and towards event-centricity that is critical to my mind. The decision making involved in deciding how to process an event should be Business-oriented, might be Complex and will increasingly be Analytical. BEP, CEP, AEP - seems like a distinction without a difference to me.

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