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	<title>Comments on: The Open Source Debate&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hans - regardless of what you were replying to it, is a fair comment. 
- downloads of products or docs
- open source product / community feedback on product (eg TIBCOmmunity)
Once we move to Eclipse we can consider a Community edition of BE, much like we do for BPM with BusinessStudio (ie freeware BPMN editor).
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hans - regardless of what you were replying to it, is a fair comment.<br />
- downloads of products or docs<br />
- open source product / community feedback on product (eg TIBCOmmunity)<br />
Once we move to Eclipse we can consider a Community edition of BE, much like we do for BPM with BusinessStudio (ie freeware BPMN editor).<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/08/26/the-open-source-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, my previous comment was meant for your post on Forrester/evaluation downloads. I was reading a couple of posts on the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, my previous comment was meant for your post on Forrester/evaluation downloads. I was reading a couple of posts on the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/08/26/the-open-source-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul, regardless of whether you offer downloads, there is another issue: free access to documentation and information about the product.

I know that TIBCO looks on such free information as a net loss. It just serves for comparison shopping, copying features into OSS and product evaluation that is unguided by the sales team.

But in the case of CEP, it's also a big part of why there is no CEP community to speak of. No one can blog about the CEP landscape, because there is no public information on half of the products.

So to the extent that you would like more of a CEP blogging community (and I don't know how much you care about that, no criticism intended if you don't care), you would want a little more disclosure of information on BE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, regardless of whether you offer downloads, there is another issue: free access to documentation and information about the product.</p>
<p>I know that TIBCO looks on such free information as a net loss. It just serves for comparison shopping, copying features into OSS and product evaluation that is unguided by the sales team.</p>
<p>But in the case of CEP, it&#8217;s also a big part of why there is no CEP community to speak of. No one can blog about the CEP landscape, because there is no public information on half of the products.</p>
<p>So to the extent that you would like more of a CEP blogging community (and I don&#8217;t know how much you care about that, no criticism intended if you don&#8217;t care), you would want a little more disclosure of information on BE.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Vincent</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/08/26/the-open-source-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn - probably you are right. The question is how "community" oriented are many "open source" projects. Probably we need some better categorization for the term: source available (eg JESS), source freely available, source available and community coded, etc. 
PS: of course, closed source software is also often architected in layers to facilitate new developments more easily :)
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn - probably you are right. The question is how &#8220;community&#8221; oriented are many &#8220;open source&#8221; projects. Probably we need some better categorization for the term: source available (eg JESS), source freely available, source available and community coded, etc.<br />
PS: of course, closed source software is also often architected in layers to facilitate new developments more easily <img src='http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you'll find that the "many eyes" collective intelligent nature of the more community oriented open source projects leads to layered architectures that are easier to study and understand. See http://www.dynamicalsoftware.com/ossCorpSite.pdf for more elaboration on that. For example, Esper's events, patterns, and plug-ins make it easier to extend and customize for your desired CEP behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll find that the &#8220;many eyes&#8221; collective intelligent nature of the more community oriented open source projects leads to layered architectures that are easier to study and understand. See <a href="http://www.dynamicalsoftware.com/ossCorpSite.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.dynamicalsoftware.com/ossCorpSite.pdf</a> for more elaboration on that. For example, Esper&#8217;s events, patterns, and plug-ins make it easier to extend and customize for your desired CEP behavior.</p>
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