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	<title>Comments on: Analysts shoe-horning CEP?</title>
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	<description>Complex Event Processing (CEP)</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 22:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim: Yes its interesting how successful software analysts are. I'm sure quite a few end-users buy their services... its not all funded by the software vendors!

On use cases and customer stories: ah yes, actually I'm helping on-site at a new one right now, but its more high performance "event processing" (aka routing, applying SLA rules, KPI measuring, etc) than CEP. Sadly, its not public domain yet. As Opher would say: "more later"...

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim: Yes its interesting how successful software analysts are. I&#8217;m sure quite a few end-users buy their services&#8230; its not all funded by the software vendors!</p>
<p>On use cases and customer stories: ah yes, actually I&#8217;m helping on-site at a new one right now, but its more high performance &#8220;event processing&#8221; (aka routing, applying SLA rules, KPI measuring, etc) than CEP. Sadly, its not public domain yet. As Opher would say: &#8220;more later&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Bass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

Outside of the software vendor community and their ecosystem, Garter is not well regarded as credible.    For example, when I worked as a consultant for the DoD for years, we did not even consider Garter reports credible and independent enough for a standard technology due-diligence  process.

The Japanese just laugh when we talk Gartner reporting.  Being the genius pragmaticans of Japan, the Japanese prefer walking on the operation floor of a customer reference versus replying on junk bonds promoted by conflicted analysts.

Instead of posting hyperbola by analysts who are paid by software vendors as "consultants" and who are also "wined and dined" for influence, it would be more helpful to post use cases from real customers.

TIBCO has been remarkable silent regarding customer use cases for more than a year.    And... none of that "it is a secret, we can't tell you blah blah" :-)

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>Outside of the software vendor community and their ecosystem, Garter is not well regarded as credible.    For example, when I worked as a consultant for the DoD for years, we did not even consider Garter reports credible and independent enough for a standard technology due-diligence  process.</p>
<p>The Japanese just laugh when we talk Gartner reporting.  Being the genius pragmaticans of Japan, the Japanese prefer walking on the operation floor of a customer reference versus replying on junk bonds promoted by conflicted analysts.</p>
<p>Instead of posting hyperbola by analysts who are paid by software vendors as &#8220;consultants&#8221; and who are also &#8220;wined and dined&#8221; for influence, it would be more helpful to post use cases from real customers.</p>
<p>TIBCO has been remarkable silent regarding customer use cases for more than a year.    And&#8230; none of that &#8220;it is a secret, we can&#8217;t tell you blah blah&#8221; <img src='http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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