Comments on: CEP in hardware, too? http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/ Complex Event Processing (CEP) Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:44:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: vincent http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/comment-page-1/#comment-426 vincent Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:37:08 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/#comment-426 Hi Alex - yes BE has a data grid (in software) that is effectively a distributed OODB (based on an extended version of Tangosol / Oracle Coherance). I'll need to describe the extensions in more detail in a later blog post... but I'm pretty sure similar data grids are not available yet in silicon. Hi Tim / Kal - info on Solace for this device has been public domain for a few months now - see http://www.solacesystems.com/news/solace-and-tibco-announce-partnership-to-deliver-new-hardware-based-messaging-appliance Cheers, Hi Alex - yes BE has a data grid (in software) that is effectively a distributed OODB (based on an extended version of Tangosol / Oracle Coherance). I’ll need to describe the extensions in more detail in a later blog post… but I’m pretty sure similar data grids are not available yet in silicon.

Hi Tim / Kal - info on Solace for this device has been public domain for a few months now - see http://www.solacesystems.com/news/solace-and-tibco-announce-partnership-to-deliver-new-hardware-based-messaging-appliance

Cheers,

]]> By: Tim Bass http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/comment-page-1/#comment-425 Tim Bass Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:43:25 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/#comment-425 @Krishnan Yes, Solace did all the work, including coming up with the idea of embedding RV into ASIC. @Krishnan

Yes, Solace did all the work, including coming up with the idea of embedding RV into ASIC.

]]> By: Alex http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/comment-page-1/#comment-422 Alex Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:40:48 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/#comment-422 such a cache / data grid approach within BE being an OEM of Oracle Coherence... by the way. such a cache / data grid approach within BE being an OEM of Oracle Coherence… by the way.

]]> By: vincent http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/comment-page-1/#comment-420 vincent Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:41:32 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/#comment-420 Nigel posted at http://preferisco.blogspot.com/2009/02/tibco-rv-in-box-would-appliances-help.html that he thought CEP-with-history would also be a good target for hardware-acceleration. That's an interesting thought, but the issues are: - history = store + complexity (not many hardware-only databases out there) - centralized stores: large CEP applications keep lots of event history around, which is incompatible with performance unless you go distributed, which in turn gives you data partitioning and location problems of the sort solved by the BE cache / data grid approach. Nigel posted at http://preferisco.blogspot.com/2009/02/tibco-rv-in-box-would-appliances-help.html that he thought CEP-with-history would also be a good target for hardware-acceleration. That’s an interesting thought, but the issues are:
- history = store + complexity (not many hardware-only databases out there)
- centralized stores: large CEP applications keep lots of event history around, which is incompatible with performance unless you go distributed, which in turn gives you data partitioning and location problems of the sort solved by the BE cache / data grid approach.

]]> By: Kal Krishnan http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/comment-page-1/#comment-419 Kal Krishnan Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:20:15 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/#comment-419 Just to set the record straight - this is not just a simple "rebadge" job involving some general pupose software bundled on an OEM piece of hardware, as may be implied in the above comments. Rather, it is a "from the ground up" reimplementation of RV using ASIC and FPGA technologies, resulting in an order of magnitude improvement in performance. As Paul said, this is a very exciting development for CEP, as many of the applications are message I/O bound since BE is multi-threaded and multi-engine capable! Just to set the record straight - this is not just a simple “rebadge” job involving some general pupose software bundled on an OEM piece of hardware, as may be implied in the above comments. Rather, it is a “from the ground up” reimplementation of RV using ASIC and FPGA technologies, resulting in an order of magnitude improvement in performance. As Paul said, this is a very exciting development for CEP, as many of the applications are message I/O bound since BE is multi-threaded and multi-engine capable!

]]> By: Marco Seiriö http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/comment-page-1/#comment-418 Marco Seiriö Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:54:36 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/#comment-418 I'm a great fan of appliances. But sadly they never seem to catch on. Instead the normal way of installing software on generic hardware seems always be favored. Special purpose hardware seems to always loose to hardware used for more than one specific task. Only exception seems to be things that everyone need, like boxes for file and printer sharing. It would be interesting to do something Kaskad Technology tried out, namely put a specialized FPGA in the box to speed up the processing. I’m a great fan of appliances. But sadly they never seem to catch on. Instead the normal way of installing software on generic hardware seems always be favored. Special purpose hardware seems to always loose to hardware used for more than one specific task. Only exception seems to be things that everyone need, like boxes for file and printer sharing.

It would be interesting to do something Kaskad Technology tried out, namely put a specialized FPGA in the box to speed up the processing.

]]> By: Tim Bass http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/comment-page-1/#comment-417 Tim Bass Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:49:41 +0000 http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2009/02/04/cep-in-hardware-too/#comment-417 This is an OEM deal by TIBCO with Solace Systems. Why not mention Solace in the blog or on the TIBCO product page? This is an OEM deal by TIBCO with Solace Systems.

Why not mention Solace in the blog or on the TIBCO product page?

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